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Postby RV Pundit » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:39 am

Energizer; No doubt that East/Southern Africa is next frontier; TZ have already discovered Natural gas; This week Mozambique got even mind numbing discovery of the same.

Suffice to say the wealth of Africa lies underneath.

Rather than Vision 2030 building Konza nonsense..Our GoK must invest in GEOLOGICAL SURVEY...it shouldn't be expensive to get geologist..some rigs..and dig around.East Africa lags behind because we have no geological surveys of what lies underneath...we don't even know how wealthy we are???

In kenya there is lots of coal in Ukambani..lots of iron in Meru/RV...lots of Natural Gas in RV...Oil in Turkana..Isiolo..the NEP...lots of Gold in Nyanza/Western.But of course our vision 2030 has nothing on it; We are thinking NUCLEAR; ICT sijui what

If Gok spend 20B annually doing geological surveys of rocks; fissures; in at least every 30KM square kilometers; we might get vision 2030 in 10yrs.
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Postby Energizer » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:59 am

The biggest mistake the Govt makes is to assume it can do everything. Anyone who has ever dealt with Govt bureaucracy knows that most of their civil servants are simply out of their depth and probably have no clue what vision 2030 really entails in practice and what they want to achieve.
When one spends too much time in the office, they have no idea what goes on in the real world. If the Govt wants achieve its goals, it must involve private business and let them source the resources for investments in all these potentially very wealthy sectors. The Govt should do just one thing and then step aside: issue Sovereign Guarantees to interested Kenyans so as to access capital from Chinese Banks, the rest will be done by business. That is how Dubai has done it in 20 years, yet we have a far greater resource base.


RV Pundit wrote:Energizer; No doubt that East/Southern Africa is next frontier; TZ have already discovered Natural gas; This week Mozambique got even mind numbing discovery of the same.

Suffice to say the wealth of Africa lies underneath.

Rather than Vision 2030 building Konza nonsense..Our GoK must invest in GEOLOGICAL SURVEY...it shouldn't be expensive to get geologist..some rigs..and dig around.East Africa lags behind because we have no geological surveys of what lies underneath...we don't even know how wealthy we are???

In kenya there is lots of coal in Ukambani..lots of iron in Meru/RV...lots of Natural Gas in RV...Oil in Turkana..Isiolo..the NEP...lots of Gold in Nyanza/Western.But of course our vision 2030 has nothing on it; We are thinking NUCLEAR; ICT sijui what

If Gok spend 20B annually doing geological surveys of rocks; fissures; in at least every 30KM square kilometers; we might get vision 2030 in 10yrs.
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Postby RV Pundit » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:05 am

Apart from sovereign guarantees..i think to attract investment and funding...they must do more..you can't go to china bank without real clear geological work [at least the basic] showing there is something in place A and B.

That is what KENINVEST must be doing. They should have a map of kenya showing which places possible have what minerals. At least a preliminary study rock formation underneath every location.

Energizer wrote:The biggest mistake the Govt makes is to assume it can do everything. Anyone who has ever dealt with Govt bureaucracy knows that most of their civil servants are simply out of their depth and probably have no clue what vision 2030 really entails in practice and what they want to achieve.
When one spends too much time in the office, they have no idea what goes on in the real world. If the Govt wants achieve its goals, it must involve private business and let them source the resources for investments in all these potentially very wealthy sectors. The Govt should do just one thing and then step aside: issue Sovereign Guarantees to interested Kenyans so as to access capital from Chinese Banks, the rest will be done by business. That is how Dubai has done it in 20 years, yet we have a far greater resource base.
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Postby Energizer » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:24 am

Absolutely correct. I deal with Chinese all the time and they like concrete information, but are very enthusiastic once they agree to a deal and will go to great lengths to see it through.

RV Pundit wrote:Apart from sovereign guarantees..i think to attract investment and funding...they must do more..you can't go to china bank without real clear geological work [at least the basic] showing there is something in place A and B.

That is what KENINVEST must be doing. They should have a map of kenya showing which places possible have what minerals. At least a preliminary study rock formation underneath every location.

Energizer wrote:The biggest mistake the Govt makes is to assume it can do everything. Anyone who has ever dealt with Govt bureaucracy knows that most of their civil servants are simply out of their depth and probably have no clue what vision 2030 really entails in practice and what they want to achieve.
When one spends too much time in the office, they have no idea what goes on in the real world. If the Govt wants achieve its goals, it must involve private business and let them source the resources for investments in all these potentially very wealthy sectors. The Govt should do just one thing and then step aside: issue Sovereign Guarantees to interested Kenyans so as to access capital from Chinese Banks, the rest will be done by business. That is how Dubai has done it in 20 years, yet we have a far greater resource base.
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Postby digalo » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:51 am

KDF are welcome by residents in Dhobley with roses.....they are burning the effigy and pictures of prezzy sheik Shariff.Destination Kismayu :)
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