Kenya Talks

first i will start by stating my stand , I do support Uhuru wa Kenyatta ,am also against Raila and Mudavadi presidency .
Having discussed with people who lived and worked in the Riftvalley , the "Kalenjin" vote will go to :

1.Ruto , if Ruto insists on going for the presidency .It is also very possible that Ruto will be Railas running mate , i mean VP .
2.Mudavadi , in the event Mudavadi goes to the second round with Uhuru .Kalenjins will vote overhelmingly Mudavadi .but I doubt mudavadi will see the second round .
3.Raila , in the event Raila goes to the second round with Uhuru , Kalenjins will vote overhelmingly Raila .


"Kalenjins" as nomads , a very predictable . They see Kikuyus as a threat but not LUOS , they despise LUOs , so they beleive Luo presidency will not harm them .

My personal opnion is Raila Amollo Odinga will be the next president of Kenya unless uhuru supports Mudavadi .

You have talked like 1000 men combined,you deserve a head of state recognition.

thats a more realistic perspective.

Realiskk-kkally speaking this post can make the muthamaki adherents very upset.

Its time for reality check for Uhuru.

You're 5yrs late. You're stuck in a time-wrap. Kalenjin took this very LEAP of faith in 2007 and Raila rewarded them with betrayal, evictions,abuse and malignment. Only the most stupid of kalenjin would even entertain such a thought. I'm yet to meet such many Kalenjin...maybe Indie..who is a mental case.

You need to move on with time.

Kalenjin are going for Ruto in first round; if it comes down to Uhuru versus Raila; It no brainer; Kalenjin yote will vote for one Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta.

I know majority of you want to turn back the clock but is just impossible.

If cooperating with Uhuru was so toxic; Ruto and current RV mps would be the first to know;

Uhuru has a special place in Kalenjin heart $ mind. Any other GEMA would be hard sell; UHURU NEVER.

Uhuru has been with Kalenjin since 1992...1997...2002...2005...just went to PNU september 2007..by 2008..he was back with Ruto.

realistic wrote:first i will start by stating my stand , I do support Uhuru wa Kenyatta ,am also against Raila and Mudavadi presidency .
Having discussed with people who lived and worked in the Riftvalley , the "Kalenjin" vote will go to :

1.Ruto , if Ruto insists on going for the presidency .It is also very possible that Ruto will be Railas running mate , i mean VP .
2.Mudavadi , in the event Mudavadi goes to the second round with Uhuru .Kalenjins will vote overhelmingly Mudavadi .but I doubt mudavadi will see the second round .
3.Raila , in the event Raila goes to the second round with Uhuru , Kalenjins will vote overhelmingly Raila .


"Kalenjins" as nomads , a very predictable . They see Kikuyus as a threat but not LUOS , they despise LUOs , so they beleive Luo presidency will not harm them .

My personal opnion is Raila Amollo Odinga will be the next president of Kenya unless uhuru supports Mudavadi .

I knew this post would awaken you,just wondering,why cant Ruto just kill it in the first round round by becoming Uhurus vp,instead of circumventing around,dont you think it makes sense to become a deputy president rather than the little known majority party leader??????????????or something else

It june 2012; you have less than 1yr to dream on; before you go mental.

pajero wrote:I knew this post would awaken you.

Raila/Rutoh factor is now going to work.TNA goons has shown Rutoh we don't trust you

RVpundit Thanks for explaining ,sure Uhuru has a special place among Kalenjins, but going by the deep sitted supscion of Kikuyus among Kalenjin .It will be difficult to predict the true picture . The only sure way to block Raila presidency , is "

-Make sure he does not go to the second round with Uhuru , otherwise Kalenjin vote (100% kipsigis ,50% Nandi ) will go to Raila .

RV Pundit wrote:You're 5yrs late. You're stuck in a time-wrap. Kalenjin took this very LEAP of faith in 2007 and Raila rewarded them with betrayal, evictions,abuse and malignment. Only the most stupid of kalenjin would even entertain such a thought. I'm yet to meet such many Kalenjin...maybe Indie..who is a mental case.

You need to move on with time.

Kalenjin are going for Ruto in first round; if it comes down to Uhuru versus Raila; It no brainer; Kalenjin yote will vote for one Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta.

I know majority of you want to turn back the clock but is just impossible.

If cooperating with Uhuru was so toxic; Ruto and current RV mps would be the first to know;

Uhuru has a special place in Kalenjin heart $ mind. Any other GEMA would be hard sell; UHURU NEVER.

Uhuru has been with Kalenjin since 1992...1997...2002...2005...just went to PNU september 2007..by 2008..he was back with Ruto.

realistic wrote:first i will start by stating my stand , I do support Uhuru wa Kenyatta ,am also against Raila and Mudavadi presidency .
Having discussed with people who lived and worked in the Riftvalley , the "Kalenjin" vote will go to :

1.Ruto , if Ruto insists on going for the presidency .It is also very possible that Ruto will be Railas running mate , i mean VP .
2.Mudavadi , in the event Mudavadi goes to the second round with Uhuru .Kalenjins will vote overhelmingly Mudavadi .but I doubt mudavadi will see the second round .
3.Raila , in the event Raila goes to the second round with Uhuru , Kalenjins will vote overhelmingly Raila .


"Kalenjins" as nomads , a very predictable . They see Kikuyus as a threat but not LUOS , they despise LUOs , so they beleive Luo presidency will not harm them .

My personal opnion is Raila Amollo Odinga will be the next president of Kenya unless uhuru supports Mudavadi .

Another 10 nil by realistic

Kalenjins do not like Kikuyu and vice versa and cant vote for each other. Kikuyus are sitting on Kalenjin land stolen by Kenyatta and are bitter. Kikuyus have faced persecution from kalenjins and have never forgiven them. this is a fact. Worse still, the Kibaki presidency has worsened the relationship.
Kalenjins can work with Luos any day. there are no historical differences.

stroke of genius

You need to look for another straw. I can tell you for free amongst kalenjin; the people who hate raila most are kipsigis; Mau was kipsigis land; Mau IDPS are kipsigis.Clearly you're stuck in a time-wrap. Kalenjin gave Luo the benefit of doubt in 2007...Raila squandered that opportunity. Kalenjin aren't stupid to re-elect him;

The next straw i see people lurching on is the kikuyu/RV Land questions.

I guess you never heard of 92 clashes pitting kalenjin against luos, gusii, kikuyu and Luhya.

I guess you never heard of this yr land clashes in Chemelil.

Kalenjin land questions doesn't spare ODINGA; Odinga is infact responsible for about the same size of land that was grabbed from kalenjin..if not bigger.

Kenyatta folks grabbed part of Nakuru and Uasin Gishu.

Jaramogi orchestrated an even larger land grab of Borabu settlement scheme; Chemelil-Muhoroni Sugar belt and Tranzoia including manipulating Mt elgon to go to western.All this Odinga did in 1962-1963 by manipulating the boundaries of provinces and districts to steal Kalenjin land...and of course "buying" 500 acres in Chemelil scheme.

Kalenjin are more or less done with Kikuyus; the next war will be btw Kalenjin and Luo; Ohoo Kalenjin love Luo so much they would re-elect Raila even after he treated them like SHIET.

2007 was the first and perhaps the last time Kalenjin worked with Luo politically...and it took a huge leap of faith from Kalenjin..because they KNEW ODINGA very well..and that explain why they left him high and dry at first sign of trouble

Nothing could be MORE RIDICULOUS.

You need other straws...this aint working like ICC ONE.

It either Uhuru or Ruto. Once that change..i'll let you know.

realistic wrote:RVpundit Thanks for explaining ,sure Uhuru has a special place among Kalenjins, but going by the deep sitted supscion of Kikuyus among Kalenjin .It will be difficult to predict the true picture . The only sure way to block Raila presidency , is "

-Make sure he does not go to the second round with Uhuru , otherwise Kalenjin vote (100% kipsigis ,50% Nandi ) will go to Raila .

Never say die Pundit