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Postby kauhai » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:16 am

Johnnie Carson contradicts Obama on kenya polls saying President elected in March must be globally accepted. Count on the likes of him and Koffi to play interference for Jacon.
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Postby Terminator » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:28 am

Its not so much a contradiction as a qualification.

Here is the article http://elections.nation.co.ke/news/-/16 ... index.html.
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Postby independent » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:31 am

i have a feeling uhuru will not be calling a press confrence on this one to thank carson for that statment.
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Postby Observer » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:33 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

24-days to go and you get the sense that the uhuruto assumed juggernaut is starting to feel the perplexing and unknown heat coming from all sides.

independent wrote:i have a feeling uhuru will not be calling a press confrence on this one to thank carson for that statment.
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Postby PuaKal » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:12 am

Terminator wrote:Its not so much a contradiction as a qualification.

Here is the article http://elections.nation.co.ke/news/-/16 ... index.html.

I have been laughing for days over this saga. It is pertinently obvious that a majority of Nipate and Kenyans are unfamiliar with U.S. PC/Diplo-speak.

We seem to prefer everything put in a binary black/white format. It is for the same reason we are still debating the sweeping reach of Chapter 6.
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Postby RV Pundit » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:14 am

Well it past time for diplospeak. They need to lay it flatly.We are 3 weeks from making that decisions. And if they care so much about how we will make that decision..they need to enumerate the consequences of electing mr XYZ.
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Postby fairandbalanced » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:30 am

where have i heard this statement before?i use it for my kids all the time. In diplomatic terms, it's very condesceding and it shows that the USA is still out of touch and stuck in the past. The more they press, the more they get a negative reaction from Kenyan patriots. The problem with the Kenyan situation as opposed to say sudan is that all Kenyans are aware and know what happened in 2007. They also know who and who should not be tried in the ICC. If this was a case of people being tried infront a jury of their peer, thsese guys would be walking free. The case is bogus and shady and i bilieve even the USA will stay aside and let the process play itself out.
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Postby Kichwa Mbaya » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:32 am

Puakal, my very sentiments. I did not see anything in Obama's speech for Jubilee to celebrate and yet they did. I guese its the diplo talk which confuses these people but if you read the speech again there is really nothing there to make Uhuruto happy. Obama was talking about the rule of law and that the courts should settle all the disputes and not the voters-that means chapter six. Chapter six is clear-verily verily I say unto you, one cannot hold public office if one has integrity questions pending over him. Now, if being charged with crimes against humanity at the Hague, does not place integrity questions upon anybody's character, then what does?

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Terminator wrote:Its not so much a contradiction as a qualification.

Here is the article http://elections.nation.co.ke/news/-/16 ... index.html.

I have been laughing for days over this saga. It is pertinently obvious that a majority of Nipate and Kenyans are unfamiliar with U.S. PC/Diplo-speak.

We seem to prefer everything put in a binary black/white format. It is for the same reason we are still debating the sweeping reach of Chapter 6.
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Postby my2cents » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:33 am

Why the ambiguity? I saw Hcc turner on Cord TV trying to be as ambiguous and confusing as he could. The journalost kept prodding him to explain clearly UKs position. Finally in an effort to pin him down the interviewer asked him what he will you do if Uhuruto win? He mumbled something like "we will cross that bridge... blah bull blah'' :lol: slippery bugger. Why dont they just come out clearly and say they will impose sanctions to kenyans for choosing Uhuruto? You cant say the cnoice belongs to the people of kenya and in the same breadth try to blackmail them out of that liberty by insinuating you will punish kenyans for their choice? Ukoloni mamboleo. It just hardens my resolve even more. Sanctions or no sanctions I will wake up very early on Mar 4 to vote in my president Uhuru and his deputy Bill Ruto.
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Postby Jakoyo Midiwo » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:34 am

independent wrote:i have a feeling uhuru will not be calling a press confrence on this one to thank carson for that statment.


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Postby mburugokubwa » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:41 am

OBAMA message WAS simple...avoid violence and follow the law in case of disputes.
the rest of the staff will outlay the overall obama stance,, we should expect more on this from john kerry in the coming days and certainly after next week
OBVIOULSY obama has had some very bad press AT HOME due to his percived kenyan connections since he was a candidate from 2007/8
and so he would not want more bad press hearing guys with cases at the hague are being elected to run kenya
the moment uhuru is elected though it is unlikely to be so, you can bet the western press wil go into ovedrive
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Postby Terminator » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:42 am

Yep. Some people only move when they hear the whip crack. And even then it may take a direct hit by a two by four to get them to their senses. The US position has never been more consistent.
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Terminator wrote:Its not so much a contradiction as a qualification.

Here is the article http://elections.nation.co.ke/news/-/16 ... index.html.

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Postby fairandbalanced » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:46 am

A glitter of hope for the desperados, let's wait for march 4th. It's going to be a rollercoaster ride until then but the truth is there for all to see, the people who caused the most chaos in 2007 are still doing it today, the truth is there for all to see like Homabay. Everyone else in Kenya is using the courts as opposed to rocks and machetes.
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Postby RV Pundit » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:49 am

The decision on 4th will by for kenyans by kenyans. It won't matter whether you support CORD or not; Kenya would have all elected UHURUTO.

If US want to impose sanctions; They need to explain it.It is their prerogative.
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Postby PuaKal » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:56 am

I suspect this is a manifestation of Kenya's education system. You know, how we expect teachers and lecturers to lay it out there ready for consumption.
Terminator wrote:Yep. Some people only move when they hear the whip crack. And even then it may take a direct hit by a two by four to get them to their senses. The US position has never been more consistent.
PuaKal wrote:
Terminator wrote:Its not so much a contradiction as a qualification.

Here is the article http://elections.nation.co.ke/news/-/16 ... index.html.

I have been laughing for days over this saga. It is pertinently obvious that a majority of Nipate and Kenyans are unfamiliar with U.S. PC/Diplo-speak.

We seem to prefer everything put in a binary black/white format. It is for the same reason we are still debating the sweeping reach of Chapter 6.
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