Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

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Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by koblo » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:45 am

I would like Miguna to read this when he wakes up in the Toronto cold, where he is just another black immigrant that Trump loving skin-heads will want to spit on in the metro.

Miguna will sorely miss his Runda home, his high celebrity status and the numerous paid TV appearances. He will miss the awe with which his "mastery" of the Queen's mother tongue was held. He is now just another foreigner with a "thick" accent. Miguna must this morning ask himself why none of the other NASA luminaries were subjected to such harsh treatment, yet they all took part in the "illegal oathing". He will quickly find out that unlike them, he went overboard the day after the swearing, when he called Matiangi all kinds of names and dared him to arrest.

Matiangi might be a jerk and SOB in Miguna's opinion. But while the government of the day was willing to live with the slight humiliation and irritation of a parallel swearing in, the hubris and arrogance displayed by Miguna on national TV was dangerous to national security if left unchecked. Such hubris in times of heightened political tension can be a catalyst for insubordination and national chaos. The "rogue hyena" had to be taught a lesson of humility in order to restore calm in the nation, and to pass the message that there is a competent government in charge.

Miguna must also thank his Canadian citizenship for the little slap on the wrist called "deportation". Knowing the way Kenya operates, it is quite likely that had he been an ordinary fella with no other connections, the flying squad might unfortunately have airlifted him to Canaan, the land of permanent slumber. Did he say somewhere that he saw an officer with very big hands while in custody ? Did his NASA buddies scream he had asthma? Did they realize how convenient the asthma ruse would have been for a cop with big hands to fly him to Canaan?

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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by NattyDread » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:40 am

koblo wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:45 am
Miguna must this morning ask himself why none of the other NASA luminaries were subjected to such harsh treatment, yet they all took part in the "illegal oathing". He will quickly find out that unlike them, he went overboard the day after the swearing, when he called Matiangi all kinds of names and dared him to arrest.
Hapo! He siad " Matiang'i you are absolutely NOTHING!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys6Ja-IdIHY

In this alternative version, anybody with a critical mind can see that this press conference was not authorized by the movers and shakers of ODM. That is why only nondescript cheerleaders surrounded Miguna, giggling like kids impressed by a big bully farting in the market square:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHiRTj7lQoc
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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by Itina » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:01 am

Going overboard was stealing of elections, killing people and deporting a Kenyan Uhuru and his cursed generation will pay.

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Did Canadian embassy in Nairobi asked for their citizen Miguna Miguna to be released and handed back to his home? Your conclusion, I cant know if the letter below is genuine or fake.


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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by AntiHubris » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:39 am

:roll: :roll: :roll: impotent threats.
Has yuuge bonfaiyas iguana burnt the Kenya high commission in Ottawa yet?
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Going overboard was stealing of elections, killing people and deporting a Kenyan Uhuru and his cursed generation will pay.

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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by koblo » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:34 am

Itina wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:01 am
Going overboard was stealing of elections, killing people and deporting a Kenyan Uhuru and his cursed generation will pay.
There is a false sense of invisibility among some Kenyans who have lived abroad, especially those from North America. Many (such as Miguna) look at Africa through the bigoted prisms of their new "homes" and totally underestimate the raw power of even a clumsy Fred Matiangi. These people forget that there is a real reason CSs travel first class, have diplomatic passports and enjoy numerous trappings of power both at home and while abroad. They represent the collective dignity, political and economic might of all the people of their country (however humble). One would have to be the CEO of a top notch company like Microsoft, facebook, etc to acquire the same level of clout

Kalonzo, Weta, Orengo and Raila all understood this reality and preferred to not throw raw sewage at the symbol of Kenya's national security. Miguna threw shie.t at Matiangi (and the govt) and got shie.t back

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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by FARAJA » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:12 am

Well put. You listen to minions in North America talking about Kenya and then you juxtapose that with what they've doing for nearly 3 decades and you just feel sorry.

Even those who’ve succeeded like Makau Mutua, you read their write ups and wonder what value they are adding to our developing country.

As Grand Mullah succinctly put it at JKL, Uhuru is not going to hv a legacy if he doesn’t add rule of law into his four pillars. Yes, the government is breaking the law in reacting to NASA. He has to contain law breaking. The judiciary is the worst.

But back to diasporans, they sneer at Kenya and behave no different from the missionary of yesteryear:

I’m here to fix you

There are a lot more successful Kenyans in Kenya than those of us living in north America. Miguna is perhaps more productive and enjoys life in Kenya than in Canada. If he exceeds the speed limit in Canada, they go after his wallet. In Kenya, he calls Raila or Wanjigi on his phone and the cops pee on their pants and let him go. Elites do that all the time and then complain corruption is rampant. Of course it’s rampant if elites are above the law. The small man has to be squeezed to pay for their comfort.

Simply put, humble yourself abroad and realize that your life is no more important than a matatu driver genuinely working his butt off to pay for school fees. Those kids of matatu drivers are the ones who hv fixed Kenya since you left. Have some respect to the locals.
koblo wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:34 am
Itina wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:01 am
Going overboard was stealing of elections, killing people and deporting a Kenyan Uhuru and his cursed generation will pay.
There is a false sense of invisibility among some Kenyans who have lived abroad, especially those from North America. Many (such as Miguna) look at Africa through the bigoted prisms of their new "homes" and totally underestimate the raw power of even a clumsy Fred Matiangi. These people forget that there is a real reason CSs travel first class, have diplomatic passports and enjoy numerous trappings of power both at home and while abroad. They represent the collective dignity, political and economic might of all the people of their country (however humble). One would have to be the CEO of a top notch company like Microsoft, facebook, etc to acquire the same level of clout

Kalonzo, Weta, Orengo and Raila all understood this reality and preferred to not throw raw sewage at the symbol of Kenya's national security. Miguna threw shie.t at Matiangi (and the govt) and got shie.t back
There are people who want to engage in ad hominem abuse all day long on online forums, spewing bile in a seemingly unending stream.

These are, in fact, the most uneducated amongst us.

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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by walahu » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:17 am

His remains will forever remain in North America
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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by Itina » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:35 am

Stealing of elections negates everything you want to tell us. All is rubbish once you steal elections. You have no mandate of the people so you are worse than idi amin.
Uhuru is a muderer he has killed lots of people and surprisingly he has killed more kikuyus than Luos. But his time will come.

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Unread post by vooke » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:32 pm

He’s coming back
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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by RV Heavy hitter! » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:36 pm

FARAJA wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:12 am
Well put. You listen to minions in North America talking about Kenya and then you juxtapose that with what they've doing for nearly 3 decades and you just feel sorry.

Even those who’ve succeeded like Makau Mutua, you read their write ups and wonder what value they are adding to our developing country.

As Grand Mullah succinctly put it at JKL, Uhuru is not going to hv a legacy if he doesn’t add rule of law into his four pillars. Yes, the government is breaking the law in reacting to NASA. He has to contain law breaking. The judiciary is the worst.

But back to diasporans, they sneer at Kenya and behave no different from the missionary of yesteryear:

I’m here to fix you

There are a lot more successful Kenyans in Kenya than those of us living in north America. Miguna is perhaps more productive and enjoys life in Kenya than in Canada. If he exceeds the speed limit in Canada, they go after his wallet. In Kenya, he calls Raila or Wanjigi on his phone and the cops pee on their pants and let him go. Elites do that all the time and then complain corruption is rampant. Of course it’s rampant if elites are above the law. The small man has to be squeezed to pay for their comfort.

Simply put, humble yourself abroad and realize that your life is no more important than a matatu driver genuinely working his butt off to pay for school fees. Those kids of matatu drivers are the ones who hv fixed Kenya since you left. Have some respect to the locals.
koblo wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:34 am
Itina wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:01 am
Going overboard was stealing of elections, killing people and deporting a Kenyan Uhuru and his cursed generation will pay.
There is a false sense of invisibility among some Kenyans who have lived abroad, especially those from North America. Many (such as Miguna) look at Africa through the bigoted prisms of their new "homes" and totally underestimate the raw power of even a clumsy Fred Matiangi. These people forget that there is a real reason CSs travel first class, have diplomatic passports and enjoy numerous trappings of power both at home and while abroad. They represent the collective dignity, political and economic might of all the people of their country (however humble). One would have to be the CEO of a top notch company like Microsoft, facebook, etc to acquire the same level of clout

Kalonzo, Weta, Orengo and Raila all understood this reality and preferred to not throw raw sewage at the symbol of Kenya's national security. Miguna threw shie.t at Matiangi (and the govt) and got shie.t back
While I don't agree with what Miguna has done and said, I think most Kenyans in North America are productive individuals’ contribution to Kenya and North America's economy equally. I think when we complain about Kenya, we talk more about rampant corruption and ineffective service delivery ran by middlemen-cum-cartels that are hurting millions of Kenyans on a daily basis. I think if you live in America and you are deeply involved in your family affairs in Kenya like building homes, educating kids and weekly money transfers, you'd know that Kenya have serious problems that barely change every decade. Majority of People are very economical with the truth and always trying to con you for the service even if whatever you are trying to do is for their benefit. Corruption has gone from top figures in National Government in the 80s all the way down to the brains of 90% of Kenyan citizen brains. Family members and friends can easily con you.
Integrity, CHARACTER AND HONESTY is a thing of the past and that is why you have these diasporas complaining from time to time. Kenyans off course are not willing to listen or believe their alternate facts as long as their tribe’s people are in power or out of power. Had jaCon been in power, Luos would vilify this message and I expect Kyuks and Kalenjins to object to this. Corruption is King in Kenya right now….It is at an all time high and as long as that is the case, sane diasporans will always vent with frustrations disparaging Kenya at large.
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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by Logan » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:45 pm

RV Heavy hitter! wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:36 pm
FARAJA wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:12 am
Well put. You listen to minions in North America talking about Kenya and then you juxtapose that with what they've doing for nearly 3 decades and you just feel sorry.

Even those who’ve succeeded like Makau Mutua, you read their write ups and wonder what value they are adding to our developing country.

As Grand Mullah succinctly put it at JKL, Uhuru is not going to hv a legacy if he doesn’t add rule of law into his four pillars. Yes, the government is breaking the law in reacting to NASA. He has to contain law breaking. The judiciary is the worst.

But back to diasporans, they sneer at Kenya and behave no different from the missionary of yesteryear:

I’m here to fix you

There are a lot more successful Kenyans in Kenya than those of us living in north America. Miguna is perhaps more productive and enjoys life in Kenya than in Canada. If he exceeds the speed limit in Canada, they go after his wallet. In Kenya, he calls Raila or Wanjigi on his phone and the cops pee on their pants and let him go. Elites do that all the time and then complain corruption is rampant. Of course it’s rampant if elites are above the law. The small man has to be squeezed to pay for their comfort.

Simply put, humble yourself abroad and realize that your life is no more important than a matatu driver genuinely working his butt off to pay for school fees. Those kids of matatu drivers are the ones who hv fixed Kenya since you left. Have some respect to the locals.

While I don't agree with what Miguna has done and said, I think most Kenyans in North America are productive individuals’ contribution to Kenya and North America's economy equally. I think when we complain about Kenya, we talk more about rampant corruption and ineffective service delivery ran by middlemen-cum-cartels that are hurting millions of Kenyans on a daily basis. I think if you live in America and you are deeply involved in your family affairs in Kenya like building homes, educating kids and weekly money transfers, you'd know that Kenya have serious problems that barely change every decade. Majority of People are very economical with the truth and always trying to con you for the service even if whatever you are trying to do is for their benefit. Corruption has gone from top figures in National Government in the 80s all the way down to the brains of 90% of Kenyan citizen brains. Family members and friends can easily con you.
Integrity, CHARACTER AND HONESTY is a thing of the past and that is why you have these diasporas complaining from time to time. Kenyans off course are not willing to listen or believe their alternate facts as long as their tribe’s people are in power or out of power. Had jaCon been in power, Luos would vilify this message and I expect Kyuks and Kalenjins to object to this. Corruption is King in Kenya right now….It is at an all time high and as long as that is the case, sane diasporans will always vent with frustrations disparaging Kenya at large.

In a nutshell, HH has spilled all that ills and inhibit Kenyans the likes of shallow Faraja.
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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by FARAJA » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:23 pm

Logan,
A troll is a troll is a troll.

HH is not saying anything different than adding on to what I said.

Either read to understand, or at least put your two cents in your own words.
Logan wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:45 pm
RV Heavy hitter! wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:36 pm
FARAJA wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:12 am
Well put. You listen to minions in North America talking about Kenya and then you juxtapose that with what they've doing for nearly 3 decades and you just feel sorry.

Even those who’ve succeeded like Makau Mutua, you read their write ups and wonder what value they are adding to our developing country.

As Grand Mullah succinctly put it at JKL, Uhuru is not going to hv a legacy if he doesn’t add rule of law into his four pillars. Yes, the government is breaking the law in reacting to NASA. He has to contain law breaking. The judiciary is the worst.

But back to diasporans, they sneer at Kenya and behave no different from the missionary of yesteryear:

I’m here to fix you

There are a lot more successful Kenyans in Kenya than those of us living in north America. Miguna is perhaps more productive and enjoys life in Kenya than in Canada. If he exceeds the speed limit in Canada, they go after his wallet. In Kenya, he calls Raila or Wanjigi on his phone and the cops pee on their pants and let him go. Elites do that all the time and then complain corruption is rampant. Of course it’s rampant if elites are above the law. The small man has to be squeezed to pay for their comfort.

Simply put, humble yourself abroad and realize that your life is no more important than a matatu driver genuinely working his butt off to pay for school fees. Those kids of matatu drivers are the ones who hv fixed Kenya since you left. Have some respect to the locals.

While I don't agree with what Miguna has done and said, I think most Kenyans in North America are productive individuals’ contribution to Kenya and North America's economy equally. I think when we complain about Kenya, we talk more about rampant corruption and ineffective service delivery ran by middlemen-cum-cartels that are hurting millions of Kenyans on a daily basis. I think if you live in America and you are deeply involved in your family affairs in Kenya like building homes, educating kids and weekly money transfers, you'd know that Kenya have serious problems that barely change every decade. Majority of People are very economical with the truth and always trying to con you for the service even if whatever you are trying to do is for their benefit. Corruption has gone from top figures in National Government in the 80s all the way down to the brains of 90% of Kenyan citizen brains. Family members and friends can easily con you.
Integrity, CHARACTER AND HONESTY is a thing of the past and that is why you have these diasporas complaining from time to time. Kenyans off course are not willing to listen or believe their alternate facts as long as their tribe’s people are in power or out of power. Had jaCon been in power, Luos would vilify this message and I expect Kyuks and Kalenjins to object to this. Corruption is King in Kenya right now….It is at an all time high and as long as that is the case, sane diasporans will always vent with frustrations disparaging Kenya at large.

In a nutshell, HH has spilled all that ills and inhibit Kenyans the likes of shallow Faraja.
There are people who want to engage in ad hominem abuse all day long on online forums, spewing bile in a seemingly unending stream.

These are, in fact, the most uneducated amongst us.

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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by Logan » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:07 pm

There'd be nothing to add if you weren't shallow, bro.... that's all I wanted to say, retard.
FARAJA wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:23 pm
Logan,
A troll is a troll is a troll.

HH is not saying anything different than adding on to what I said. :roll:

Either read to understand, or at least put your two cents in your own words.
Logan wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:45 pm
RV Heavy hitter! wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:36 pm


While I don't agree with what Miguna has done and said, I think most Kenyans in North America are productive individuals’ contribution to Kenya and North America's economy equally. I think when we complain about Kenya, we talk more about rampant corruption and ineffective service delivery ran by middlemen-cum-cartels that are hurting millions of Kenyans on a daily basis. I think if you live in America and you are deeply involved in your family affairs in Kenya like building homes, educating kids and weekly money transfers, you'd know that Kenya have serious problems that barely change every decade. Majority of People are very economical with the truth and always trying to con you for the service even if whatever you are trying to do is for their benefit. Corruption has gone from top figures in National Government in the 80s all the way down to the brains of 90% of Kenyan citizen brains. Family members and friends can easily con you.
Integrity, CHARACTER AND HONESTY is a thing of the past and that is why you have these diasporas complaining from time to time. Kenyans off course are not willing to listen or believe their alternate facts as long as their tribe’s people are in power or out of power. Had jaCon been in power, Luos would vilify this message and I expect Kyuks and Kalenjins to object to this. Corruption is King in Kenya right now….It is at an all time high and as long as that is the case, sane diasporans will always vent with frustrations disparaging Kenya at large.

In a nutshell, HH has spilled all that ills and inhibit Kenyans the likes of shallow Faraja.
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Re: Why it is difficult to sympathize with Miguna

Unread post by Doctor Masinde » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:46 pm

koblo wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:45 am
I would like Miguna to read this when he wakes up in the Toronto cold, where he is just another black immigrant that Trump loving skin-heads will want to spit on in the metro.

Miguna will sorely miss his Runda home, his high celebrity status and the numerous paid TV appearances. He will miss the awe with which his "mastery" of the Queen's mother tongue was held. He is now just another foreigner with a "thick" accent. Miguna must this morning ask himself why none of the other NASA luminaries were subjected to such harsh treatment, yet they all took part in the "illegal oathing". He will quickly find out that unlike them, he went overboard the day after the swearing, when he called Matiangi all kinds of names and dared him to arrest.

Matiangi might be a jerk and SOB in Miguna's opinion. But while the government of the day was willing to live with the slight humiliation and irritation of a parallel swearing in, the hubris and arrogance displayed by Miguna on national TV was dangerous to national security if left unchecked. Such hubris in times of heightened political tension can be a catalyst for insubordination and national chaos. The "rogue hyena" had to be taught a lesson of humility in order to restore calm in the nation, and to pass the message that there is a competent government in charge.

Miguna must also thank his Canadian citizenship for the little slap on the wrist called "deportation". Knowing the way Kenya operates, it is quite likely that had he been an ordinary fella with no other connections, the flying squad might unfortunately have airlifted him to Canaan, the land of permanent slumber. Did he say somewhere that he saw an officer with very big hands while in custody ? Did his NASA buddies scream he had asthma? Did they realize how convenient the asthma ruse would have been for a cop with big hands to fly him to Canaan?
I wanted to respond but I thought that may be it is best to first post Miguna's credentials before responding:

Miguna Miguna
Education: University of Nairobi (BA- not completed), University of Toronto (BA), Osgoode Law School, York University (JD), and (LL.M).

Profession: Dedicated Liberation Fighter (DLF), author, barrister and solicitor (Canada) and an advocate of the High Court of Kenya.

May you please post your credentials so we can compare?

Respectfully,
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