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Postby Logan » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:00 pm

Thursday, January 5 2012

All the players in the G7 Alliance promised their supporters that they would work together in the up coming General Election
in a strategy to lock out Mr Odinga from the presidency. :D
They have however retreated to strengthen their own parties before coming together as a single unit.
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Presidential aspirants Uhuru Kenyatta and George Saitoti have pulled out of a planned meeting to launch the PNU Alliance,
threatening plans by G7 leaders to field a single candidate during this year’s election. :oops:
Mr Kenyatta joins PNU party chairman Prof Saitoti in skipping the Tuesday event, raising questions on the future of the Alliance
as the political vehicle to be used to challenge Prime Minister Raila Odinga during this year’s presidential election.

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/U ... index.html
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Postby Lyudmila » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:43 pm

Hehehe

Until now I never knew what this vision means (only Veritas will understand ish)...

I was with HILLARY CLINTON :D (Sec of defense) and this bus called bus 118 (for Psalms 118) stopped by and she told me to get in. I also saw one member of G7 (yes NAWAJUA WOTE) sitting in a wheel chair. I am warning you, CONTINUE THIS WAR WITH GOD YOU WILL END UP IN A WHEELCHAIR BY THE END OF THE YEAR> Coincidentally this is what Psalm 118 say, THANK YOU JESUS!! Love ya.

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Psalm 118

1O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: because his mercy endureth for ever.

2Let Israel now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

3Let the house of Aaron now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

4Let them now that fear the LORD say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

5I called upon the LORD in distress: the LORD answered me, and set me in a large place.

6The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?

7The LORD taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.

8It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

9It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

10All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD will I destroy them.

11They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD I will destroy them.

12They compassed me about like bees: they are quenched as the fire of thorns: for in the name of the LORD I will destroy them.


13Thou hast thrust sore at me that I might fall: but the LORD helped me.

14The LORD is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.

15The voice of rejoicing and salvation is in the tabernacles of the righteous: the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.

16The right hand of the LORD is exalted: the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.

17I shall not die, but live, and declare the works of the LORD.

"There is no wisdom, no insight, no PLAN that can succeed against the LORD" - Proverbs 21:30
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Postby Energizer » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:30 pm

Not so fast with the celebrations. ODM-R's real competition is gathering and being reorganised around the slowly reawakening KANU, and a newly resuscitated UDM which Ruto is preparing to fumigate. When these two come together for the General election, as they surely will, expect very dark clouds on the ODM-R horizon. PNU was always an empty shell without Kibaki, and now without Uhuru. How so called commentators cannot see that is beyond me.
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Postby Lyudmila » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:34 pm

Energyi

Thank you for allowing me to share your present space although it is quiete obvious that we are living in parallel universes at the present moment....ahsante.
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Postby Logan » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:34 pm

Tuesday, February 14 2012 at 22:30

The G7 Alliance on Tuesday seemed headed for a major fallout as allies of Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta
and Eldoret North MP William Ruto turned against Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka.
The MPs meeting at a Nairobi hotel are demanding that the VP have Justice Minister Mutula Kilonzo sacked, failure to which he will not be welcome to attend the joint rallies in support of International Criminal Court accused Kenyatta and Ruto.


Mr Kenyatta attended the closed-door meeting at Nairobi’s Sagret hotel where his supporters took issue with what they said was the VP’s silence over Mr Kilonzo's statements on whether ICC suspects can still run for presidency.


The trouble appears to have started at a rally in Machakos last weekend where Mr Musyoka is accused of failing to decry Mr Kilonzo’s utterances. :lol:


The MPs are also said to be irked by remarks from Kangundo MP Johnstone Muthama, a close ally of the VP, during the meeting on Saturday. (READ: Unite or forget top seat, G7 leaders told)


While Mr Muthama was missing at Tuesday’s meeting, notably present were some of Mr Musyoka’s critics in Ukambani — Mr Kiema Kilonzo (Mutito) and Mr Charles Kilonzo (Yatta).


Those in attendance remained cagey with details of the meeting, but multiple sources confirmed that a key issue was the VP’s role in the G7 Alliance.
“We had to meet and put this house in order. This house was crumbling and it had to be saved because there is too much at stake and some people who do not even have the numbers are working to destroy it,” said one MP who attended the meeting.


Speaking after the meeting, Energy Minister Kiraitu Murungi said “consultations” were “ongoing issues” in the light of the reopening of Parliament on Tuesday.


MPs allied to Mr Kenyatta are preparing to take to the House a motion of no-confidence against the Justice Minister.


Sources from the meeting revealed that MPs will sign a petition to be presented to Speaker Kenneth Marende arguing that Mr Kilonzo has been misinterpreting the Constitution.


They are to cite Article 99(3), which protects an accused person from being kicked out of office unless all avenues of appeal have been exhausted.


Cherangany MP Joshua Kuttuny said allies of Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto, who attended the Machakos rally, were not happy with what they witnessed and would rather have joint meetings without the VP.


“Mr Muthama made a statement in Kikamba which we have not taken lightly,” Mr Kuttuny said, adding that the statement could be interpreted to mean that the VP stands to benefit from Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto’s troubles.


During the Machakos meeting, Mr Muthama is on record saying, “Mbaitu ni mwisi kana veekwa aati tukekaati (My brothers, do you know that if things go that way, we are going to win this battle)?” He went on, “Aa meekwaati, tukekaati, nikenda vekwe ati na indi tuyika ati (If it happens so, we will realise good tidings?”


Mr Kuttuny told the Daily Nation that during the Machakos meeting, the team had challenged Mr Musyoka to “get rid of Mr Kilonzo, but the Vive President appeared to have a soft heart despite openly showing disregard for Ruto and Kenyatta”.


Soon after the Machakos meeting, Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto led their entourage to a hotel in Kitengela where they reportedly said that they were unhappy with the reception in Machakos.


Two MPs from Ukambani attended the meeting, the Nation has reliably learnt.


The G7 alliance has planned another meeting for Nyahururu Town this weekend and it will be interesting to see if the VP will attend in light of the latest developments.


http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/G ... index.html
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Postby Kichwa Mbaya » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:59 pm

G7 is not sustainable because it lacks any principle or ideology that can hold that many people together for that long. It is like building a huge sand castle. It is impossible to gauge the commitment level of MP's outside the inner uhuruto core. Kikuyu voters do not have the same commitment to Uhuru the way some Kaleos have for Ruto and if there is a better choice they will leave Ruto and Uhuru hanging just like they did moi and Uhuru. I hope Kaleo voters are smarter now. Trying to recreate the Kenyatta/moi arrangement of yesteryears is like chasing a mirage or more like dog chasing its tail. It ain't gonna happen again.
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Postby DuruzaKuaminika » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:46 am

Kichwa Mbaya wrote:G7 is not sustainable because it lacks any principle or ideology that can hold that many people together for that long. It is like building a huge sand castle. It is impossible to gauge the commitment level of MP's outside the inner uhuruto core. Kikuyu voters do not have the same commitment to Uhuru the way some Kaleos have for Ruto and if there is a better choice they will leave Ruto and Uhuru hanging just like they did moi and Uhuru. I hope Kaleo voters are smarter now. Trying to recreate the Kenyatta/moi arrangement of yesteryears is like chasing a mirage or more like dog chasing its tail. It ain't gonna happen again.


An ideology built on bashing personalities and deceiving voters will not achieve much. This fake unity built on anti-Raila sentiments while each of us wants to be president will also not do much mileage.

I expect the political landscape to have changed significantly by August 2012. G-7 will probably be dead and buried by that time.
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Postby pajero » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:06 am

The centre is not holding
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Postby Logan » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:57 pm

Poor opportunist Kaloi..the undecided watermelon.. :lol:


President Kibaki has stepped in to end the infighting in the G7 that appeared to have resulted in Kalonzo Musyoka being forced out of the alliance. :oops:

The President’s intervention Friday led to a ceasefire at the end of a long day in which the Vice-President was working behind the scenes to keep his place in the alliance. Sources say Kalonzo worked the phones repeatedly on Thursday afternoon and Friday morning, reaching out to Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta and Eldoret North MP William Ruto.

The VP also had a one-hour closed-door meeting with President Kibaki at Harambee House, Nairobi, at which the recent turn of events was discussed.

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While his spokesman insists the meeting was "a routine consultative meeting" on other issues, other sources say Kalonzo sought the President’s intervention.
Matters came to a head on Thursday when Kalonzo’s G7 allies tried to pressure him into supporting efforts to kick out Justice and Constitutional Affairs Minister Mutula Kilonzo.

The planned censure, which was eventually abandoned, was intended as punishment for the Justice Minister’s insistence Uhuru and Ruto cannot contest the presidency while committed to trial by the International Criminal Court over crimes against humanity.

Friday evening, the VP held another meeting with Uhuru and Ruto at the Norfolk Hotel at which the three leaders thrashed out a basic deal on how to end the hostilities.
The meeting also resolved that allies of the G7 leaders would avoid public utterances on their differences. :roll:
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Postby Logan » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:57 pm

Fresh rift as G7 chiefs plan how to stop Raila

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/F ... index.html


Logan wrote:Thursday, January 5 2012

All the players in the G7 Alliance promised their supporters that they would work together in the up coming General Election
in a strategy to lock out Mr Odinga from the presidency. :D
They have however retreated to strengthen their own parties before coming together as a single unit.
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Presidential aspirants Uhuru Kenyatta and George Saitoti have pulled out of a planned meeting to launch the PNU Alliance,
threatening plans by G7 leaders to field a single candidate during this year’s election. :oops:
Mr Kenyatta joins PNU party chairman Prof Saitoti in skipping the Tuesday event, raising questions on the future of the Alliance
as the political vehicle to be used to challenge Prime Minister Raila Odinga during this year’s presidential election.

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/U ... index.html
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Postby Logan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:22 pm

Deputy Prime Minister Musalia Mudavadi and Eldoret North MP William Ruto yesterday snubbed a meeting convened by DPM Uhuru Kenyatta to discuss a common strategy to approach the general elections. The two boycotted the meeting as they felt it would be perceived they were in support of Wednesday's decision by the PNU and the Alliance party to endorse Uhuru as their candidate in the forthcoming presidential elections.

On Wednesday four parties—Uhuru's TNA, Kiraitu Murungi's Alliance Party of Kenya, Mwangi Kiunjuri's GNU and the PNU — all of which have their strongholds in the Mt Kenya region signed a pact which endorsed Uhuru. The pact, signed at the Norfolk hotel, which was also the venue of yesterday's meeting, also sanctioned Uhuru to begin talks with other like minded leaders with the aim of identifying one presidential candidate.

The PNU party has distanced itself from the pact which was allegedly signed on its behalf by the party secretary general Amos Kimunya. The PNU committee on ethics chaired by Stanley Livondo held an urgent meeting and resolved to recommend Kimunya's removal as secretary general during the national executive committee meeting which will be held at Lake Naivasha Country Lodge this weekend.

The officials accused Kimunya of 'auctioning' the party to TNA and acting beyond the mandate of his office. Allies of both Musalia and Ruto believe that Uhuru, having consolidated the populous Mt. Kenya region, he will obviously demand to be the flag-bearer since, "a river does not join its tributaries but rather the opposite."

Yesterday's meeting was attended by Kiraitu and other presidential aspirants— Raphael Tuju (POA) and Eugene Wamalwa (New Ford Kenya). Nominated MP Mohammed Affey represented Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka. "What you saw on Wednesday was mount Kenya regrouping. How could you then expect DPM Musalia to go and sanitise such conglomeration?" a close ally Mudavadi said.

Mudavadi spokesman Kibisu Kabatesi said the meeting was not in their diary and even if the DPM was invited he would not have honored it. "How do you go to a meeting where your rival is going to be endorsed?," Kibisu added. A close Ruto ally, Cherangany MP Joshua Kutuny said the Eldoret North MP could not attend such a meeting as its objectives were furthering regional and not national interests.

"Let them (Mt. Kenya) put their house in order and we will meet at the ballot with any negotiations coming only during the run off," Kutuny said. Ruto opted to attend a URP “regular meeting” at the party headquarters. He endorsed the endorsing the ongoing unity meetings among the G7 alliance members describing them as positive.

However, he declined to confirm whether he had been invited to the Norfolk meeting. “I am a URP and you should ask me about URP. Matters to do with TNA should be answered by TNA people,” said Ruto who was flanked by party chairman Francis Kaparo and MPs Julius Kones, Isaac Ruto, Chachu Ganyu, Abdirahman Ali and Zakayo Cheruiyot.

Kaparo said the party was busy putting its house in order and encouraged others to put their house in order too. He said when the right time comes, parties will unite. “We must continuously engage and encourage such meetings. The bottom line is that at the end of the day we must be in a position where we can take this country forward,” Ruto said.Yesterday, Tuju said the meeting had agreed that a technical team comprising one person nominated by each of the presidential aspirants will start meeting to draft mechanisms for their coalition.

http://www.the-star.co.ke/national/nati ... ru-meeting
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Postby Reeves » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:46 pm

Ala? Kwani tena, kumeendaje? I thought this G7 thing was sealed and delivered tunangoja swearing in ya President Uhuruto? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Postby RV Pundit » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:38 am

G7 is a luxury now. After implosion of ODM-R into NDP. Why would you merge? Against Luos--no 4 kabila in kenya?

The raison de' tre for G7 was a strong Raila.Once Raila was weaken. G7 ceased to exist. If Raila strengthen; G7 become an imperative. Right now we need G7 against Uhuru :mrgreen: That is the new King.

The day Mudavadi quit was the last day Ruto dealt with G7. URP and TNA are now more enemies than friends. Weak candidates like Mudamba, Wamalwa and Kalonzo of course drool at G7 where they get to sit with giants like Ruto and Uhuru as "EQUAL" and have the audacity to 'demand' to be endorsed as 'joint candidate' whilst they cannot bring even 1M votes on the table. Ruto and Uhuru will just grant them photo ops and maybe sign their autograph :lol: :lol:

Why would Uhuru even listen to anyone when he bring clean 3.5M votes on the BASKET (not just registered). If Ruto want to talk to Uhuru..it will be simple..Ruto will accept reality that Uhuru is the bigger steakholder..and Ruto will just ask for 1/3 of the meat..Uhuru keep 2/3...those who deserve Mkia..get mkia..others can even take the testacles..and the hooves :lol: :lol:
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Postby Energizer » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:49 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 10 - 0!

RV Pundit wrote:G7 is a luxury now. After implosion of ODM-R into NDP. Why would you merge? Against Luos--no 4 kabila in kenya?

The raison de' tre for G7 was a strong Raila.Once Raila was weaken. G7 ceased to exist. If Raila strengthen; G7 become an imperative. Right now we need G7 against Uhuru :mrgreen: That is the new King.

The day Mudavadi quit was the last day Ruto dealt with G7. URP and TNA are now more enemies than friends. Weak candidates like Mudamba, Wamalwa and Kalonzo of course drool at G7 where they get to sit with giants like Ruto and Uhuru as "EQUAL" and have the audacity to 'demand' to be endorsed as 'joint candidate' whilst they cannot bring even 1M votes on the table. Ruto and Uhuru will just grant them photo ops and maybe sign their autograph :lol: :lol:

Why would Uhuru even listen to anyone when he bring clean 3.5M votes. If Ruto want to talk to Uhuru..it will be simple..Ruto will accept reality that Uhuru is the bigger steakholder..and Ruto will just ask for 1/3 of the meat..Uhuru keep 2/3...those who deserve Mkia..get mkia..others can even take the testacles..and the hooves :lol: :lol:
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Postby RV Pundit » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:55 am

I think Isaac Ruto said it clearly. Ruto and URP will talk to Uhuru if Raila beat Ruto for second round. The card were shuffled.Either way i like it because Raila escape routes have been SEALED completely.You really have to deal with cold reality early because there is really no other way. If you want to talk to Uhuru...it just to accept no 2 or 3 or 4. That is reality.Kiraitu and his Mbus threat hit a brick wall. Kalonzo too. Mudavadi is facing some reality as we speak.Uhuru just put a nice show for Mudavadi..so he can get real.

If you're YU Network and you want to talk to Safaricom for a merger..you don't demand to be the CEO.

Of course there is way to beat Safaricom or Uhuru; But it takes lot more time, lot more planning and clinical execution. Right now it improbable anyone can match Uhuru.

Energizer wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 10 - 0!
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